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Post by Lash Out! Administrator on May 24, 2008 18:44:04 GMT -5
There are a few of you out there already applying Isopropyl Alcohol on your clients lashes to polymerize the glue. Who's using this technique and how are you finding it?  |
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Post by Eyecatching Lashes on May 25, 2008 1:15:22 GMT -5
I have never heard of this technique. I was taught however to apply a product called a Longer Life Coating which contains Teflon and can be applied 10 Min's after lash application. This is to seal in the glue bond. This product can be retailed to the client and they are advised to apply this every 2-3 days. This is particularly good for clients who swim regularly or are exposed to heat on a regular basis.
I would be most interested to learn about the technique mentioned and if it really preserves the lashes effectively, the cost and how this product can be obtained.
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Post by clarityskincare on May 25, 2008 3:36:30 GMT -5
I used the technique when I was using a slower drying glue. It did seem to cause the glue to adhere more quickly so I could move to the next lashes. Now I'm using the flash Lash glue and it hasn't been necessary.
When I did use the IPA, I found some blooming on the lashes. I didn't care for that either.
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Post by Eyecatching Lashes on May 25, 2008 3:55:23 GMT -5
I'm still not sure what technique/products that this refers to. Obviously it is nothing to do with the longer life coating? Can you explain this method/application/product etc. to me as I'm really curious. Does the blooming effect happen every time?
Also Tami do you believe that this is a worthwhile step?
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Post by Lash Out! Administrator on May 26, 2008 8:58:14 GMT -5
Using IPA forces the adhesive to cure instantly, making the glue into plastomere (otherwise known as plastic). Once polymerized, its no longer a chemical (undergoing change) - it becomes inert and is unable to any omit any fume, odour or vapour. It eliminates/reduces glue allergies in clients, as Its unlikely that a client is going to have reaction to Plastic. The Polymization effect : COATS the glue and creates a shield.  It is also makes the the glue less brittle and the lashes softer to touch. Clients are able to open their eyes faster, if your glue is high in fume/vapour. IPA on freshly applied extensions makes the glue dry faster and last longer. I have not used this technique to dry lashes, as the Flash Lash Glue is super quick drying, that it's not necessary to use IPA for this purpose. As for lasting longer? Well, I'm not sold yet. I'm still researching this point, but with long lasting glues Lash Out has brought out, its hard to determine IF the technique IS working or the client is JUST having a good run with her lashes Do I think that it's a worthwhile step? I'm not convinced just yet.  |
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Post by Eyecatching Lashes on May 26, 2008 12:14:14 GMT -5
Thank you for that explanation as this technique is completely new to me.
I think that you raised an interesting point about the fact that this step may prevent allergies and prevent fumes allowing the client to open their eyes quicker. An eyelash extensions company once advised me that glue allergies can develop at any time with clients who have previously not had any problems with adhesives and you also made this point in an earlier thread. With the demand within the industry for faster drying and longer lasting formulas, this does sound like it's worth looking into in more depth.
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Post by Kelly on Jun 10, 2008 7:50:52 GMT -5
Hi everyone, Could someone explain how this is done. Do you apply the alcohol to the lash after you put on the EE or after you are done with all of them? Also how do you apply the alcohol?
Thanks
Kelly
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Post by girlj on Jun 10, 2008 11:14:52 GMT -5
I apply the IPA before I apply the lashes and after. I spray it on a disposable spongy eyeshadow brush and I use the wide end of my tweezers underneath the lashes. I apply it to the tops of the lashes and the rest gets on the tweezers and gets it to the bottom of the lashes as I move across. I blow them dry then apply the lashes. When I am done with the set or fill I make sure the last lash I applied is dry and I do the same thing with the IPA. The client can open their eyes as soon as the IPA is dry--way faster than not using it. I really feel like my returns are better since I have been doing it. Some people use different tools to apply it, so you can try a few out and see what works best for you.
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Post by i-LashNYC on Jun 10, 2008 12:34:35 GMT -5
I have just started using this technique myself and while I do find clients can open their eyes faster, I haven't concluded that they are lasting any longer... yet
I found this to not be great with novalash adhesive but any other non rubberized formulas are fine.
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Post by Eyecatching Lashes on Jun 11, 2008 2:01:04 GMT -5
I have a concern with this method as it is yet another chemical/product that is used on the eyes. Also it may speed up the drying time but surely by the time you have applied this product you may as well have worked on the alternate eye, by which time the lash would be dry anyway.
From the comments made it doesn't appear to be contributing to the longevity of the lashes but it will be interesting to hear the outcome of your trials Tami.
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Post by eyecandy on Jun 13, 2008 4:37:44 GMT -5
I've been experimenting with the IPA also. I found that is does make the lashes last longer by about a week. I don't use it for drying purposes, as the Flash Glue is quick enough! I rebook My clients so they are coming back at 4 weeks. Now my refills are taking 30-40 mins.
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Post by Eyecatching Lashes on Jun 13, 2008 5:03:19 GMT -5
Hi eyecandy
Thats interesting about the longevity. For infills to only take 30mins after 4 weeks that's quite impressive. Where do you get this product from and how much does it cost.
I had never heard of this technique before seeing this thread on the website so it's a completely new concept to me. I've been doing lashes for 2 years now and try to keep up to date with the new developments in the lash industry but to my knowledge no UK lash company offer anything like this. As I mentioned earlier I have used the Longer Life Coating that contain Teflon but these are designed to be applied 10 mins after lash application and then reapplied every 2-3 days in between fills by the client.
Can you let me know where I can get hold of this as I'm curious to try it out.
I mentioned earlier that I was concerned about too many chemicals applied around the eye area. Does this product have an MSDM data sheet. This covers the ingredients and safety issues associated with the product.
Finally Tami have you drawn any further conclusions with you trials of this product.
Thank you
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Post by lashbaby on Jun 13, 2008 11:19:25 GMT -5
IPA - Isopropyl Alcohol - get the 91%. you can get it at the drug store/chemists. It's nothing special! But it makes sense - if you've ever swiped your fingernails with IPA before applying polish, you've probably noticed your manicure lasts longer - it just takes all the oil off the surface, for prepping.
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Post by Eyecatching Lashes on Jun 13, 2008 13:28:06 GMT -5
Hi i-lashNYC I'm curious why it doesn't work well with the rubberised adhesives. What results do you get with the Nova Lash adhesive?
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Post by Lash Out! Administrator on Jun 20, 2008 6:10:11 GMT -5
Hi Eyecatching,
Lashbaby is right on. I've been using 100% IPA. I know it comes in different percentages.
Most Acrylic Nail Suppliers sell the stuff.
It is pure alcohol and the only other ingredient that would be in it is water. Not sure about the MSDS, on this product. You would have to ask the supplier that you get it from.
My experience with this product is starting to look Positive. Most of the lash stylist's using this technique are experiencing good results between fills also. So far so good!! As far as using it with Rubberised glues would possibly make the glue Bloom (turn white) or it may alter the chemical bond of the adhesion.
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