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Post by Lash Out! Administrator on Jan 27, 2009 7:13:02 GMT -5
Well I used it....like I said I would. And this is what REAL MEDICAL GRADE GLUE LOOKS LIKE: People have been going on about Medical grade glues being used in the eyelash extension industry. So I did my research and this is what I found: I don't know how great this glue is for bonding skin together....but I can tell you it is ABSOLUTELY USELESS for Eyelash Extensions. Introducing to you...Dermabond (the ONLY medical grade glue) and I can assure you it does not adhere to the synthetic lashes at all. Very little fumes/vapour and did not irritate the clients eyes. But it took over 4 minutes to dry/set upon applying the extensions and even then it was STILL not dry and was slipping and sliding all over the place on the natural lash. After trying it on a few different lashes, in pure frustration, I gave up and thew it in the bin! ....So there you have it ladies (and gents). My Hypothesis to this experiment is: Medical grade glue should be kept in surgery and not in the eyelash extension industry. And any adhesive on the market labled 'medical grade' is Extremely misleading
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Post by laura grant on Apr 13, 2009 14:31:46 GMT -5
do u find the medical grade glue as impossible as the sensative glue for drying time
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Post by Lash Out! Administrator on Apr 14, 2009 18:01:32 GMT -5
Laura, Dermabond (the glue used by doctors) is worse than the sensitive slow drying glues. The glue just does not want to stick to the synthetic extension and causes it to slide around on the natural lash. Even after 3 minutes it still did not stick and was sliding around!
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Post by eyecandy on Apr 15, 2009 7:48:53 GMT -5
I think I like the Flash fast drying glue more. I cannot imagine having to wait that long
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Post by Kathryn on Apr 16, 2009 17:53:44 GMT -5
Hi,
Just wanted to say that when something is labelled "medical grade" it doesn't mean it is the glue used by doctors on wounds. What it actually means is that the glue is bacteria and heavy metal free. This is of course important for us as we wouldn't want a glue with these things in but I agree it is misleading. So in conclusion all the glues used for eyelash extensions should be sterile and labelled "medical grade".
Hope this helps.
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Post by Lash Out! Administrator on Apr 16, 2009 22:44:53 GMT -5
Hi Kathryn,
Personally, I believe anything labeled 'Medical Grade' is of an exceptional standard and is good enough to use in Surgery and Medical proceedures. MANY (un-named) Lash Supply Companies use the the term 'Medical Grade' to promote their glue as something 'special'. Its simply a SALES GIMMICK to incourage sales.
The simple fact is....No glue used for eyelash Extensions is Medical grade....Its impossible. Just the simple fact that pigment (black colour) and formaldehydes are added in the manufacturing comfirms it. Ask your supplier for the MSDS (material safety data sheet) on their glue. I can guarantee that it has emergency proceedures, if it makes contact with the skin. The difference is, a medical grade glue is designed to be applied to the skin to close open wounds (instead of using stitches).
Yes, Bacteria and Metal free ingredients can make something 'Medical Grade', providing that is made in a Laboratory. Just so you are aware, Eyelash Extension glues are made in Manufacturing plants - not laboratories. I would have to say that close to 95% of the glues out there are NOT made in Labs.
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Post by Kathryn on Apr 18, 2009 5:03:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Tami. You are right the term is misleading and it highlights a problem in the industry with the quality of glues being offered. I was aware that most glues are made in manufacturing plants but didn't realise that the definition of medical grade meant it had to be made in a lab but i guess it makes sense. I had just assumed it would be like with food or nutritional supplements that are made in manufacturing plants but they have to make the product under sterile and contaminant free conditions. I saw in one of the other feeds that the Flash Lash is approved by the Korean government. Does this mean that the factories have to meet more strict standards during the manufacturing process? Also I didn't get to see the pics of the lashes you tried with the medical glue. Was it clear in colour?
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Post by Lash Out! Administrator on Apr 18, 2009 17:13:59 GMT -5
Hi Kathryn, Eyelash Extensions originated in Korea. When the Chinese started making cheap adhesives, they contained high levels of formaldehyde. There were MANY injuries as a result. The Korean Government needed to regulate the industry and take control. Each adhesive approved by the Korean Government needs to be registered and the ingredient percentages confirmed. It has nothing to do with the manufacturing process - just the safety of the ingredients. Our adhesives are registered and meet those standards. Dermabond is a clear Purple colour that is very runny with a strong odour/fume. When applied, it looks clear. I didn't take any photo's of the set I tried to apply with Dermabond, as I couldn't get the lashes on! The photo's I originally posted was showing what the glass vial looked like.
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Post by katpop1984 on Apr 19, 2009 4:49:24 GMT -5
Hi Tami, Thank you for all the information and help. I guess the conclusion is.... Flash Lash is the way forward!! lol
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Post by kat on May 15, 2009 10:32:43 GMT -5
I am interested in learning how to apply semi-permanent lashes, where do I get started?Kat
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Post by eliseke on May 17, 2009 16:20:19 GMT -5
Hello!!!! Im new user of this site,but im lash technician as well.I just love this job! Actualli im looking for a work as well,i attend to come to Australia soon.To Brisbane on Sydney probably.So if you hear anything im glad if you let me know.Thanks. But i have never used Lash Out lashes are they good and are they silk or mink or natural lashes? The thing is that im from Estonia and im tryng to order something but i cant find how much it cost to order and how long it takes to get to stonia.
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Post by Lash Out! Administrator on May 18, 2009 6:30:36 GMT -5
Hi Kat ...big welcome to you! If your interested in training, send me an email at lashoutllashes@gmail.com and tell me where you are from. I can advise you which trainer is nearest to you. Once you've been trained, you can purchase the Lash Out kit from one of our trainers - Tami Hi Eliseke, great to have you on our chat! In regards to finding work, you could contact one of the salons currently using our products on our website. As for our lashes they are all synthetic. Currently our Mink Lashes are synthetic. To be able to see our prices in the shopping cart, you will need to register your details first, then you will be able to see the prices and purchase on-line. Normally, we estimate 7-12 working days for any deliveries outside Australia. Hope this helps - Tami
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